VNC with Crossover Cable

[Rudman]

Hello,
i just wanted to connect my desktop computer with my notebook (both XP
Pro).
So i installed RealVNC on my Desktop and copied the Viewer to my
notebook, both connected via Crossover Cable

On Desktop
started VNC Server, Insert my Passwort, allowed for Connections and AUTO
for Display

On Notebook:
started viewer, insert IP of Desktop (found out with ipconfig) and :0
for Display.

And i still have the Message: "Failed to connect to server".

Is it possible, to run vnc via crossover cable or is there anything,
i4ve done wrong?

regards

Rudi

[Alex K. Angelopoulos]

Yes, but you may have an IP configuration problem.

Can you ping the other system?


On Saturday, 2002-10-05 17:40 [GMT+0100=CET],

Post by Rudman
Hello,
i just wanted to connect my desktop computer with my notebook (both XP
Pro).
So i installed RealVNC on my Desktop and copied the Viewer to my
notebook, both connected via Crossover Cable
On Desktop
started VNC Server, Insert my Passwort, allowed for Connections and
AUTO for Display
started viewer, insert IP of Desktop (found out with ipconfig) and :0
for Display.
And i still have the Message: "Failed to connect to server".
Is it possible, to run vnc via crossover cable or is there anything,
i4ve done wrong?
regards
Rudi
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[Beerse, Corné]

-----Original Message-----
Hello,
i just wanted to connect my desktop computer with my notebook (both XP
Pro).
So i installed RealVNC on my Desktop and copied the Viewer to my
notebook, both connected via Crossover Cable

What crossover cable? Serial, utp, twisted-pair, isdn, phone, usb,
token-ring, token-bus, parallel...

On Desktop
started VNC Server, Insert my Passwort, allowed for
Connections and AUTO for Display
started viewer, insert IP of Desktop (found out with ipconfig) and :0
for Display.

Is this the IP at the other end of the crossover cable? or the IP you got
from your ISP?

And i still have the Message: "Failed to connect to server".
Is it possible, to run vnc via crossover cable or is there anything,
i4ve done wrong?

Is TCP/IP running over the link? Have both ends an ip-address in the same
subnet (10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 for example)

Then you should be able to ping from one side to the other. If so, vnc
should work too.

OOPS, You mention XP, Sorry no experience. By default it has a firewall
enabled, have no experience with that...

CBee

[Alex K. Angelopoulos]

Corn?,

...token-ring...

If VNC spontaneously combusted on token-ring I would consider that a bonus.

[Beerse, Corné]

-----Original Message-----
Corn?,

...token-ring...

If VNC spontaneously combusted on token-ring I would consider
that a bonus.

Since there is IP over token-ring (there is, I know, I've seen it in
action), it should be no problem: vnc uses IP. By default it comes as TCP/IP
but most home users have PPP/IP or Slip/IP for phone, ADSL uses ATM/IP. I
can continue if you like.

The funny thing is no-one realy understands 'inter' in 'inter-net'. It
stands for 'in-between' hence it is (can be) ported to almost every
telecommunication protocol. (think of it: vpn is ip/ip....)


CBee

[M***@drugplastics.com]

did you establish a workgroup name? just putting a cable between them wont
work if they are not talking to each other. They have to be part of the
same network.


Have a Good Day,

Michael L.



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Hello,
i just wanted to connect my desktop computer with my notebook (both XP
Pro).
So i installed RealVNC on my Desktop and copied the Viewer to my
notebook, both connected via Crossover Cable

On Desktop
started VNC Server, Insert my Passwort, allowed for Connections and AUTO
for Display

On Notebook:
started viewer, insert IP of Desktop (found out with ipconfig) and :0
for Display.

And i still have the Message: "Failed to connect to server".

Is it possible, to run vnc via crossover cable or is there anything,
i4ve done wrong?

regards

Rudi

[t***@instaview.com]

Its pure IP, it should work ok. ( remember netBEUI wont
work )

It just wont be able to use name resolution / file
sharing if the rest isn't setup. ( the windows specific crap )

This is of course assuming you set the IP, range and
subnets to match, try pinging back and forth with the
hardcode IP addresses... if you can ping both directions
then its NOT your network setup. its something else.

And also assuming he meant a Ethernet crossover, not
a parallel or serial cable..

Message: 1
Subject: Re: VNC with Crossover Cable
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:45:47 -0400
did you establish a workgroup name? just putting a cable between them

wont

work if they are not talking to each other. They have to be part of the
same network.
Have a Good Day,
Michael L.

[t***@instaview.com]

Just to clarify, I'm big on personal rights and freedom ( being
here in America and watching it slowly dwindle away is
frustrating )

But i also realize where those freedoms stop.

In a business, personal freedoms dont apply once you walk
in the door.

It is the companies building, equipment etc. and they are paying
you to work for them, not for ANY personal activities.

Plus the users WERE informed of the random auditing will take
place.. Nothing was 'hidden' from them before they hired on
and AGREED to the rules here... ( i didn't make them, i just
enforce them ).

Same goes for drug tests, GPS style ID badges, cameras in the halls,
parking lots, guard at the door, etc.. while at work you dont have the same
'rights' as you do in public or home. its a legal fact of life. Its also a
choice
you make before you work for a company.

Now.. once i walk out the door.. that is a different story.

oh.. and what's a 'stage police'??? A typo perhaps?

--__--__--
Message: 14
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:52:54 +1300
Subject: Re: Tray Icon Hiding - my 2 cents
There is the run you tell them first. The original message just wanted to

'SPY'

on there students.
I don't see or have a problem with monitoring people once they have been
informed that it will happen.
Its these people that just go out and spy on people without there

knowledge

that get my dander up!!! that is just another form of stage police!!!

Subject: RE: Legitimate reason for wanting to hide the tray icon in VNC
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:49:56 -0500

[Graeme Chinnery]

I have no problem with companies keeping tabs on there employees once those
employees are aware that monitoring was going to happen. That is fair and as
pointed out you are working for them.

What i was getting at was the original post just wanted to spy on their students
with out there knowledge. That I feel is wrong they should be at least warned
that there actions can and will be monitored....

But that's just my 2 cents worth.

Graeme

Post by t***@instaview.com
Just to clarify, I'm big on personal rights and freedom ( being
here in America and watching it slowly dwindle away is
frustrating )
But i also realize where those freedoms stop.
In a business, personal freedoms dont apply once you walk
in the door.
It is the companies building, equipment etc. and they are paying
you to work for them, not for ANY personal activities.
Plus the users WERE informed of the random auditing will take
place.. Nothing was 'hidden' from them before they hired on
and AGREED to the rules here... ( i didn't make them, i just
enforce them ).
Same goes for drug tests, GPS style ID badges, cameras in the halls,
parking lots, guard at the door, etc.. while at work you dont have the same
'rights' as you do in public or home. its a legal fact of life. Its also a
choice
you make before you work for a company.
Now.. once i walk out the door.. that is a different story.
oh.. and what's a 'stage police'??? A typo perhaps?

--__--__--
Message: 14
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:52:54 +1300
Subject: Re: Tray Icon Hiding - my 2 cents
There is the run you tell them first. The original message just wanted to

'SPY'

on there students.
I don't see or have a problem with monitoring people once they have been
informed that it will happen.
Its these people that just go out and spy on people without there

knowledge

that get my dander up!!! that is just another form of stage police!!!

Subject: RE: Legitimate reason for wanting to hide the tray icon in VNC
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:49:56 -0500

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[Illtud Daniel]

Post by t***@instaview.com
In a business, personal freedoms dont apply once you walk
in the door.

In the US, maybe. In the EU, you'll find that regardless of
contracts, or who owns the equipment, there remains the protection
of the Human Rights Act, which can have a bearing on this matter.
Other national laws may also override any feelings of omnipotence
your bosses may entertain over their workplace and equipment.